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Perhaps even images can look provoking or violent ?
If you are sensitive for this you should walk away form this blog topic about; bullying, harassment, rumors and so one
This is mine thought , ideas , experience.
As the always in in this blog.
But just in case I had to put a waring.
Thank you for the attention
This is a hard subject to take up, really.
But I think necessary to speak about.
Yes it's about indeed the : Rumors, harassment and bullying
I know that similar and ideas, subject haven been take up on other blog
Like : Elitismi Ginga-piireissä : Elitism Ginga circles by Urumi
And : Gingafandomin By Satanica
How can there be differences fans and so called elit fans ?
Why do fans act up on each other ?
The silence about the subject ?
But also Anttu have take up though and the approach. Ovatko suomalaisfanit kiittämättömiä?/ Are the Finnish fans ungrateful?Myself mention about the subject time ago.
Hey & Here comes updates and some plans
The thought I have been wondering (for a time), if WE fans can sound or act ungrateful ?
Especially where you see sometime on the board, forum how some people can throw out their frustrate or idea's how a artist, author shall write or for that mater paint.
Don't get me wrong here, sure others can have opinion, view and be critical.
There are their right of view.
But yet, is there really a point to smash a artist / author on forum.And list the bad things with the story's, manga's , art he have has done over the many years?
"Nothing good comes from hiding in the Shadows. But you will be surprised what can happen if someone dare speak or ask question.
That few seems to dare ask. But either where few dare to take a stand.
|Weed seem to be topic to like or to dislike.|
For some more hate subject.
Often Weed Anime vs Weed manga topic ?
I guess one of the many things make the fandom community, bad environment.
Not just the smashing of Yoshihiro Takahashi and his many work.
But the nagging , dragging out allt the bad with the series and the character/characters.
How it should be, shall be, or even how realistic some things is or aren't .
And if other/others have an idea or want to discuss something.
Sometime that can turn out to a argue.
And then something can badly lead to other things, like this subject here on the blog.
The rumors,harassment and bullying.
When the subject on bullying and harassment the community of fandom ,(as ginga) , mine
opinion and the experience that kind of thing are ; silencing down.
Like the quiet will eat up the bad tings happing.
Or just this subject that happens around the forum, board weren't serious
Sure there are many thing all over the Internet and the community of different fandoms that have problem with just harassment, bulling and for sure rumors.
I think the atmosphere are harder since seven.,eight years back. Just to take a example.
Well aswell the atmosphere and what other allow at community.
With community I think on Forum,Board, Message board, if you wonder
|Ginga Nagareboshi Gin Doujinshi Michin.|
Beautiful fan manga
To bad ther are oftan or time to time shadow by the bad side.
When that come to some forums, boards there have been talking about the elite, the veteran.
Who is the true fan and so one. Like there are a competition.
A long time ago ( I feeling to old) there were some fans that thought they were better then others.
Just for they discover Ginga elderly then then others.
It's same with a music group I like, I were late to discover the group (according to some others at the board) and there for not a pure fan .....
Come one, that sound so childish
Or that I hadn't all the Cd that the music group released, not been around on the concern , or had the items that you could buy or could.
O_o The words are lost when you heard , seen this in text at the current forum,board
And the admin didn't do noting or little at all.
This meant that the bad fandom for the board got a bad rumors.
Bullying, even harassment , the admins, mods favored some people/users
With this you get is bad for any board, forum.
And people left ... the only left for a time were the so called elite.
That were a long time ago and one of mine bad experience.
What can happed if the Rumors,Harassment and Bullying rules.
I really hope that non any fan board, forum or fan community see it like that.
There wrong to put fans and others fans in different category.
Friendly, and opened minded are great condition for a community. As well as tho have a more respectful or friendly way when it come to discuss.
Don't take your bad mood on others.
And the rumor thing , I'm so sure there are other things to talk about , gossip aren't to any good thing really.
Why there are drama or fight needed on some places I don't really understand .
It's Hurtful is when people more want believe rumor and create wrong/mean reputation to a other person.
Especially when "there are always two side of the coin ".
And I guess it more easy to disbelieving a other person if you don't know everything or anything of the other person.
The reputation it's self can crush others and the way too.
But with drama and bulling it's hard to sort out what happened and see if it can be sorted out.
It's way to easy to hurt other people feeling, when you are not : face to face with the others.
Then again there are those people; "who don't care or seems not to see others feeling".
Aswell the future communication.
But some perhaps just believe, swallow what a other or others say.
Without thinking by yourself.
So ; Don't listen to others all the time, think for yourself , sometime.
It can't hurt, so bad. Can it?
“Strength lies in differences, not only in similarities”There are also talk or rumors that if you are a ginga fan you mot have items,merchandise.
Or if that are believes ?
It's sad when I hear people who can't afford merchandise or have bought to much items that they are broke.
Sure it's great to have some merchandise .
But to what price ?
The first thing you need to know that things can't buy happens.
Sure you are the one to talk,you have large collection.
So many times I heard this before , over and over.
To tell the true, I have work for this.
Even it' seems that some can't believe it.
But at the bad side, negative side so to speak to be a collector can have it's one addiction. And the can be a evil spiral. For some can fallen in to identify themselves with the items, the collection. Like a obsession that can take over.
I know this for sure, for I have been there myself.
The obsession to find merchandise, compare with others or just seem to compete.
Sure you can do that, compare but in a healthy way.
Ask yourself do I really need this ? Will this make me feel alright?
Sometime I have meet people who thinks that to be a fan you most have ginga
merchandise. That is't ture.
If you are a fan to
Yoshihiro Takahashi or any of his series with ginga. You are a fan, admire .
It's simply as that.
I'm not just a Ginga fan or fan to Yoshihiro Takahashi.
Just so you know : I'm insane collector too ; )
I don't belong to any category or some veteran group.
The only thin is that I perhaps belong to a generation that were lucky to grow up with Silver Fang / Ginga: Nagareboshi Gin when it came out on vhs tape (rent vhs tape) , Outside Japan.
That is the only thing I can think of if you most put me in a box ? or in a category.
And yes perhaps I'm older then others.
Not I don't think fandom of Ginga have any line how old you shall be or how long you have been a fan.
That just silly, really.
But aswell there can be a differences with discuss and perhaps argue.
It's so easy to criticize, judge and misunderstand others.
Therefore this is so important to take up , talk about.
And perhaps find a ground to make a different, together.
Sure in some or many community the atmosphere can be good, but also bad.
And in some cases really bad.
That is why I left many forums, board .
Especially some owners, admin, mod don't want to know about things that connect to bullying, harassment
Even worse if you are ignore, or bullied.
That hard to handle or know to handle.
Sometime the passion and the argue can over the line and when you have the emotions, the temper rinsing even that best (I guess) can do mistakes.
But then what ?
Can this be sorter out or shall the be so often more others that follow and keep on going to offensive and give insult . The respect for others can flow away
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Where shall we draw line about harassment and bullying ?
Can we draw a line or even stop rumor spread ?
Do we even want somekind of protection, security against bulling?
Many times I wonder why or how can some tings be so allowed, permissible at the different community.
Can it be that people today shall tolerate more ?
And don't take things so serious .
But what happen when a small argument, dispute , there there are people who misunderstanding each other . And we all know that situation like this can grow larger.
So in worse case there are bulling, harassment and rumors flowing around .
Hurtful world, being frozen out, and people making sure that you hear, know that you are not welcome here. There are other people that ganging up to others .
All like you were back ( like in my-case) in school.
The hardest part. isn't the bulling, the harassment itself.
Not so much like that fact that other know what going on and don't want to be bother about it.
On site :US : University of Sussex there a great information text about :
FAQ about Harassment and bullying
What is the difference between harassment and bullying?I think this is really interesting to read about and reflect.For on the Internet there are sometime like the wild west.There you can do what ever you want and say what you want.
The problem, issue I have been having here on the blog is ; comment , mean , attacking comment . I guess some have some issue and take what I can write/writing personal.
Or they have a boring day
I have non idea
But before the comment can be post I need to authorize, approve. Just to avoid that , with seem to be personal insults. And not forgetting spam.
Sad but the true.
Anyway, back to topic.
In the Internet world most of the board, forum have Admin , so called; administrator or administration.
Quote from; Wiktionary: on AdminMost of the community of forum, boards have them and also mod/mods, moderate that shall help to a working nice environment for us users .
A person who has specific controls to a forum/website/etc. that allows them to control the forum/board website/etc.
The admin changed the forum settings to make more users happier.
So there can be discussion,conversations with others users.
The problem, issue is that this can be hard to oversee if you are a Admin or Mod.
Especially to not take sides .
There can be times that even the mod or admin jumping in and follow the flow with bulling or harassment. And ho to prove it to the support forum/board is hard.
And I guess some haven't even hard to look at the harassment and bullying like going on at a board, forum.
I just want to say ;
" Just don't
Don't treat people like numbers or things. There are people too
Fans are equal .
Don't put them in a category and don't say some are more valuable then others .
Just don't ....... please"
And Don't follow the others , think for yourself.
Somethings there is people who need drama, some that need to take out negative from themselves and blame of someone els.
As the writer, author George R.R. Martin says in the book ; A Game of Thrones
“Some old wounds never truly heal.
And bleed again at the slightest word.”
For to order to change and stop this bulling, harassment we must admit there is a problem, issues here.
Take a stand against those kind of things .
Other nice and thoughtful quote by Mother Teresa
“I alone cannot change the world,
but I can cast a stone across the waters to create many ripples.”